Conscious Immortality by Venkataramiah Munagala & Brunton Paul

Author:Venkataramiah, Munagala & Brunton, Paul [Venkataramiah, Munagala]
Language: eng
Format: epub
Publisher: Sri Ramanasramam
Published: 2013-08-24T16:00:00+00:00

‘I was’ in sleep. The state of being is yourself.

Q. Does that not mean to say that sleep is Self-realisation?

A. It is Self. Why do you talk of realisation? Is there a moment when the Self is not realised? Why pick out sleep for it? Even now you are self-realised.

Q. But, I do not understand it.

A. Because you are identifying the Self with body.

Q. Then how to get rid of maya ?

A. This attachment to world is not found in sleep. It is perceived and felt now. It is not your real nature. To whom is this accretion? If the real nature is known, it is not. If you realise Self the possessions are not perceived. Maya is not separate and objective that it can be got rid of in any other way. [Talk 280]

Q. How do we sleep and awaken?

A. Just at nightfall the hen, crows and the chicks hide in its wings, the hen then roosts in the nest with the chicks under her protection, at the dawn the chicks come out and so does the hen. Just so, the mother symbolises the ego which collects all the thoughts and goes to sleep. At sunrise they emerge again. Thus when the ego displays itself it does so with all its components, when it sinks, everything disappears with it.

Q. What is deep sleep?

A. Just as on a dark cloudy night no individual identification is possible and there is only darkness although the seer has his eyes wide open, similarly in deep slumber the seer is only aware of simple nescience. [Talk 286]

Q. Why should there be difference in the feelings or experiences of the two states?

A. Did you ask while asleep any question regarding your birth or where you go after death? Why think all these now in the wakeful state? Let what is born think of its birth and remedy its cause and ultimate fate. Why these questions relating to after death? Raise the questions now and answer them. Was I born? Am I reaping the fruits of my past karma ?, and so on. They will not be raised when you fall to sleep. Why? Are you different from the one in sleep? [Talk 242]

You are in sleep in the dream and in the wakeful state, just the same. Sleep is a natural state of happiness; there is no misery. The sense of want, of pain, etc. arises only in the wakeful state. What is the change that has taken place? You are the same in both, but there is a difference in happiness. Why? Because the mind has arisen now. This mind arises after the I-thought. The I-thought arises from the consciousness; if one abides in it, the person is always happy.

Q. Is it the body when tired that goes to sleep?

A. But does the body sleep or wake up? You yourself said before that the mind is quiet in sleep. The three states are to the mind. The Self is always uncontaminated. It is the substance running through all these three states.

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